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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Al Pacino &quot;out of order&quot; quote is Scent of a Woman.  And Perry Mason is rightfully absent.  He was a useless lawyer.  He won all his cases only from the actions of his private investigator, and not because of any lawlerly actions, short of asking the obvious questions once his investigator gives him the missing information.  Without Paul Drake, Perry would have lost a lot more.  And it helped that he only ever defended the innocent.  What lawyer can claim that feat?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Al Pacino &#8220;out of order&#8221; quote is Scent of a Woman.  And Perry Mason is rightfully absent.  He was a useless lawyer.  He won all his cases only from the actions of his private investigator, and not because of any lawlerly actions, short of asking the obvious questions once his investigator gives him the missing information.  Without Paul Drake, Perry would have lost a lot more.  And it helped that he only ever defended the innocent.  What lawyer can claim that feat?</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Beckerman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray Beckerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 22:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that Gregory Peck&#039;s Atticus Finch is being honored with a postage stamp, can Vincent Gambini be far behind?

Getting back to discussion of Vinny&#039;s legal attributes, I should have  mentioned:

1. he was able to &quot;learn on his feet&quot;; that can be very important; he learned from his adversary, and he learned from his fiancee; and

2. he was able to accept sound advice from his fiancee who gave him nothing but sound advice.

Without his legal team of Marisa Tomei, maybe his goose would have been cooked... but with her, he did a good job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that Gregory Peck&#8217;s Atticus Finch is being honored with a postage stamp, can Vincent Gambini be far behind?</p>
<p>Getting back to discussion of Vinny&#8217;s legal attributes, I should have  mentioned:</p>
<p>1. he was able to &#8220;learn on his feet&#8221;; that can be very important; he learned from his adversary, and he learned from his fiancee; and</p>
<p>2. he was able to accept sound advice from his fiancee who gave him nothing but sound advice.</p>
<p>Without his legal team of Marisa Tomei, maybe his goose would have been cooked&#8230; but with her, he did a good job.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin F. Danyi, JD, LLM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin F. Danyi, JD, LLM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 04:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can never forget Al Pacino when he went absolutely nuts in open court (why can&#039;t I remember the movie? - probably because it&#039;s midnight) and, in response to the judge telling him that he was &quot;out of order&quot;, responded &quot;You&#039;re out of order, this trial is out of order . . . &quot;

We can&#039;t forget Marcus Tullius Cicero. In those days, up-and-coming Romans of the senatorial class were expected to be lawyers AND military men. Cicero was no soldier, but he did battle with Hortensius until the latter retired (their fees were astronomical, although they weren&#039;t allowed to charge fees). He defended -how&#039;s this for a client - the entire citizenry of Sicily! Cicero&#039;s courtroom (even if outdoors) oratory, not to mention some rather indiscreet things he wrote, were enough to have his career ended by Marc Antony&#039;s hit squad whacking his head off with a gladius.

I also agree with Mr. Beckerman. After 25 years of practice, there&#039;s no substitute for good research, preparation, a client who has a real case, a client who isn&#039;t lying, and, as Gaius Julius Caesar (another good lawyer, by the way) would have said, simple &quot;luck&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can never forget Al Pacino when he went absolutely nuts in open court (why can&#8217;t I remember the movie? &#8211; probably because it&#8217;s midnight) and, in response to the judge telling him that he was &#8220;out of order&#8221;, responded &#8220;You&#8217;re out of order, this trial is out of order . . . &#8221;</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t forget Marcus Tullius Cicero. In those days, up-and-coming Romans of the senatorial class were expected to be lawyers AND military men. Cicero was no soldier, but he did battle with Hortensius until the latter retired (their fees were astronomical, although they weren&#8217;t allowed to charge fees). He defended -how&#8217;s this for a client &#8211; the entire citizenry of Sicily! Cicero&#8217;s courtroom (even if outdoors) oratory, not to mention some rather indiscreet things he wrote, were enough to have his career ended by Marc Antony&#8217;s hit squad whacking his head off with a gladius.</p>
<p>I also agree with Mr. Beckerman. After 25 years of practice, there&#8217;s no substitute for good research, preparation, a client who has a real case, a client who isn&#8217;t lying, and, as Gaius Julius Caesar (another good lawyer, by the way) would have said, simple &#8220;luck&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Law Blog Law Bombs &#8211; 8/24/2009 &#171; The Reasonably Prudent Law Student</title>
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		<title>By: 6 Most Evil Lawyers Ever</title>
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		<dc:creator>6 Most Evil Lawyers Ever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] = &#039;legalgeekery&#039;; Joshua already laid out the most badass attorneys of all time. But what about the just plain bad? Here&#8217;s a countdown of some of the most vile, evil, and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 02:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ray Beckerman, well, I totally respect your opinion-- that&#039;s what makes the world a great place, the fact that we can all have different opinions.  I have mine and you can have yours and all is right with the world.

Other than that, I think that&#039;s all you&#039;re going to get out of me today-- I spent way too many hours reading about gruesome injuries.  Any further comments are going to come out as grunts at this point, I&#039;m afraid.  If you&#039;ll excuse me, I&#039;m going to go try not to think about infected kneecaps and fractured eye sockets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ray Beckerman, well, I totally respect your opinion&#8211; that&#8217;s what makes the world a great place, the fact that we can all have different opinions.  I have mine and you can have yours and all is right with the world.</p>
<p>Other than that, I think that&#8217;s all you&#8217;re going to get out of me today&#8211; I spent way too many hours reading about gruesome injuries.  Any further comments are going to come out as grunts at this point, I&#8217;m afraid.  If you&#8217;ll excuse me, I&#8217;m going to go try not to think about infected kneecaps and fractured eye sockets.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Beckerman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray Beckerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 04:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I just don&#039;t agree with you, Kim.

1. Being able to bullshit convincingly is not part of the equation; a courtroom is a small place, and dishonesty is very loud.

2. Yes being able to &#039;think on one&#039;s feet&#039; is important; I didn&#039;t feel that Vinny actually demonstrated a lot of that.

3. &#039;Believing in one&#039;s client&#039;s innocence&#039; and &#039;liking your client&#039; are very nice, but they don&#039;t help you win cases. Good lawyering helps you win cases.

4. Vinny wasn&#039;t even a lawyer; he was pretending to be a lawyer. He could be jailed for what he did, and would certainly be denied bar admission.

5. We all enjoyed the movie; but I don&#039;t think you would want Vinny for your lawyer.

I rest my case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I just don&#8217;t agree with you, Kim.</p>
<p>1. Being able to bullshit convincingly is not part of the equation; a courtroom is a small place, and dishonesty is very loud.</p>
<p>2. Yes being able to &#8216;think on one&#8217;s feet&#8217; is important; I didn&#8217;t feel that Vinny actually demonstrated a lot of that.</p>
<p>3. &#8216;Believing in one&#8217;s client&#8217;s innocence&#8217; and &#8216;liking your client&#8217; are very nice, but they don&#8217;t help you win cases. Good lawyering helps you win cases.</p>
<p>4. Vinny wasn&#8217;t even a lawyer; he was pretending to be a lawyer. He could be jailed for what he did, and would certainly be denied bar admission.</p>
<p>5. We all enjoyed the movie; but I don&#8217;t think you would want Vinny for your lawyer.</p>
<p>I rest my case.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Auriemma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Auriemma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 01:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, not familiar with Damages, actually.  I&#039;ll have to check it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, not familiar with Damages, actually.  I&#8217;ll have to check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: sir pinks</title>
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		<dc:creator>sir pinks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heart Matlock. He&#039;s the reason why I went to law school. 

Speaking of badass attys, what about Patty Hews from Damages. She&#039;s pure bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heart Matlock. He&#8217;s the reason why I went to law school. </p>
<p>Speaking of badass attys, what about Patty Hews from Damages. She&#8217;s pure bad.</p>
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